AlpineFx and InfoEx

@JNOS - 79 Posts

Created: 7 years ago

Would it be possible for the Club to consider a shared subscription to RWDI's AlpineFx or CAA's InfoEx? The main locations I think these tools should focus on is either North Creek or Watersprite. It would be a great tool to allow qualified members to access these tools to better arrange club events.

Specifically on the AlpineFx, I have been able to test drive it extensively after a week at Powder Creek Lodge. Even though PCL's subscription is keyed at their location, PCL can access any model centred around any site. AlpineFx subscribers even have the ability to call or email RWDI's meteorologists for either custom forecasts or to advise that their forecasts are incorrect. RWDI meteorologists then adjust the model... or work on something fully custom. It certainly would be nice for a group of BCMC members to have a forecast produced for a traverse which has a rolling set of coordinates from camp location to camp location to allow for up-to-date Wx as the party moves.

Perhaps on the Club's internal sites, we could embed some code to show our custom 5-day forecast for North Creek and Watersprite, and then allow access to qualified trip leaders the full set of AlpineFx tools.

Because this a commercial product, AlpineFx would be just a case of money. Only a couple hundred dollars per year if I recall correctly.
As for the InfoEx, the CAA may not allow the Club to subscribe because of the difficulty in ensuring only trained CAA members use the resource.

@PaulK - 342 Posts

Created: 7 years ago

I haven't seen a demo of the capabilities of either of these products so I would be hesitant to buying either sight unseen.

@JNOS - 79 Posts

Created: 7 years ago

I'll drop the request for InfoEx because of certain professional issues.

I still think AlpineFx would be an outstanding club resource. I will reach out to RWDI to get some details to present to the club.

@JNOS - 79 Posts

Created: 6 years ago

I've talked to the Avalanche Canada about meteograms and I have been given access to a semi-private resource. If anyone is interested in an RWDI style meteograms for sites in BC and Alberta, I can share the access method as well as a basic outline of its use.

@oudinacherfi - 301 Posts

Created: 6 years ago

Hi Jim,

Just read through the details. Sounds very interesting. Would you be able to come and present this to the BOD on December ?

Oudi

@JNOS - 79 Posts

Created: 6 years ago

Yes I could do that. Coincidentally, AvCan's "Hurley" location is only 12km from the North Creek site. In a pinch, it could do. I've attached the two main outputs of the forecast runs.

The main things of interest to look at are:

  • In the uppermost graph:
    • The thick red line is the freezing level. Elevation on the left edge. 
    • Ridgetop winds according to known ridge or peak elevation can be ascertained by looking at the barbs and the direction. Short barb = 5 kts, long barb = 10 kts triangle barb = 50 kts. Looks very calm up there right now.
  • In the second to last graph:
    • Probability of hoarfrost. When the Temp and Dew Point lines are very close, or on top of each other, the likelihood of hoarfrost is high.
    • This may not be the best measure for North Creek cabin exactly as the HRDPS AvCan meteogram is keyed at 1883m, and the hut 1250m. However, 500m above the hut could be the perfect elevation for assessing ski conditions.
  • In the bottom graph:
    • The all important precipitation. How much duffey pow is on the way!

GEMg.12Z_South.Coast.Inland_Hurley.png

LAMw.18Z_South.Coast.Inland_Hurley.png