This will be a fairly fast paced hike of about 30 km with 1500 m of elevation gain.  We will either return via the valley trail or over the musical bumps, depending on weather and conditions.  It may be cold and wet, so please bring rain gear, head lamp, good boots, gaiters and perhaps an umbrella. (much of the trail is in the woods and quit wide.)  We may have lunch at the old Singing Pass hut.  We need to be out to the Gondola by 5:00 pm or we have to walk down.  It could snow at this time of the year.